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UNDERSTANDING
THREADS ON VINTAGE MACHINERY AND VEHICLES
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Understanding the threads encountered in
the restoration of vintage motorcycles, cars and machinery can
be a daunting task for those with little experience or
engineering training, or a basic knowledge of the imperial
measuring system .British and American threads are ex pressed
firstly by the diameter of the bolt then the threads per inch [T.P.I]
this being the number of threads that fit into a one inch length
of a given diameter ie 3/8x26 or 1/4x 24
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ie 3/8 x 26 or 1/4 x24 as opposed to the
metric method of measuring the diameter followed by the
measurement between two adjoining threads expressed in
millimeters ie 10 x 1.25or 6 x 1
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One exeption is the ..BA
[British Association] thread listed below.
Common threads on British Machines
B.S.C.Y. [commonly known as cycle thread]
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Cycle thread is the most common thread
found on British motorcycles mostly 26 tpi over the full range
of diameters. and has a 60 degree angle [angle of the V of the
thread]. however small diameter threads have a finer pitch and a
20 tpi version exists from 7/16 up.
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DIA
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TPI
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1/8
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40
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5/32
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32
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3/16
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32
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7/32
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26
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1/4
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26
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9/32
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26
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5/16
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26
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3/8
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26
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7/16
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26
OR 20
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1/2
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26
OR 20
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9/16
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26
OR 20
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5/8
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26
OR 20
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11/16
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26
OR 20
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3/4
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26
OR 20
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26TPI threads are often found on many parts
of vintage motorcycles in much larger diameters such as steering
head tubes, manual oil pumps, filler caps etc and must be
regarded as special threads.
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.B.S.F
[British standard fine]
Another common thread which
has a pitch [TPI] that varies with diameter and has a 55 degree angle.
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DIA
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TPI
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3/16
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32
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1/4
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26
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5/16
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22
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3/8
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20
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7/16
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18
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1/2
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16
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9/16
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16
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5/8
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14
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3/4
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12
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BRASS
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This thread has a 26
TPI pitch through the whole range and is often confused with
Cycle thread the difference being that brass thread has an angle
of 55 degrees and Cycle is 60 degrees. Brass threads are usually
confined to fittings and adjusters on cables.
Brass thread taps
and dies are often sold and advertised as 26 tpi and are usually
identified by the letter B marked on them, they are not the same
as cycle taps and dies which are rare and expensive.
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DIA
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TPI
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1/4
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26
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5/16
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26
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3/8
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26
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7/16
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26
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1/2
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26
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9/16
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26
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5/8
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26
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3/4
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26
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7/8
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26
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1inch
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26
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B.S.W [WHITWORTH]
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This is the most common of all British
threads in general use it is a coarse thread with a pitch that
varies with the diameter, not used in nut and bolt fixing on old
bikes but is sometimes used in castings for tapped holes to
accept bolts and studs easy to identify and still availiable
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DIA
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TPI
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1/16
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60
RARE ON BIKES
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3/32
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48
RARE ON BIKES
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1/8
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40
RARE ON BIKES
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5/32
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32
RARE ON BIKES
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3/16
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24
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7/32
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24
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I
have found this thread on tank fixing bolts on T S Douglas,
seems to be discontinued in modern range.
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1/4
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20
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5/16
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18
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3/8
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16
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7/16
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14
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1/2
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12
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9/16
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12
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5/8
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11
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Sizes continue to 2 inches not used on bikes
B.A [ British Association ??]
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This is the thread that does not seem to
belong in the British range it is measured in millimeters
between adjacent threads as in metric threads rather than the
TPI method and has a thread angle of 47.5 degrees. confined
mostly to electrical and magneto use, Identified by numbers
rather than diameter sizes.
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SIZE
PITCH [ in mm ]
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0
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1.00
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1
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0.90
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2
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0.81
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3
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0.73
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4
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0.66
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5
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0.59
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6
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0.53
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7
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0.48
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8
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0.43
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9
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0.39
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10
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0.35
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11
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0.31
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12
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0.28
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Even number threads can sometimes be found
in old electrical appliances and electronic stores odd numbers
are rare and are used in old magnetos.
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B.S.P British Standard Pipe [taper or parallel ]
Try these for tank and
petrol fittings
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SIZE
in T.P.I
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1/8
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28
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1/4
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19
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3/8
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19
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1/2
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14
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AMERICAN THREADS
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American threads are a lot less complicated
than British threads, consisting of two common and easily
obtained thread patterns known as U. N.F and U.N.C.
U.N.F [national fine] is exactly the same
as the old S.A.E [standard American engineers] that existed
before threads were unified. U.N.C [national coarse] roughly
derived from the British Whitworth introduced with early
machines exported into the colony and evolved through a number
of early American thread systems, such as Sellers, United States
Standard, A.N.C. and finally U.N.C., it has the same pitches
except 1/2 in dia where Whitworth is 12 tpi and U.N.C is 13 tpi.
Both these threads are 60 degree angle.
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DIA
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UNC
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UNF
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0
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80
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1
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72
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2
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56
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64
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3
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48
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56
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4
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40
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48
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5
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40
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44
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6
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32
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40
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8
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32
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36
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10
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24
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32
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12
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24
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28
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1/8
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40
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40
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5/32
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32
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32
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3/16
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24
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32
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7/32
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24
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32
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1/4
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20
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28
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5/16
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18
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24
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3/8
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16
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24
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7/16
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14
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20
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1/2
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13
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20
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9/16
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12
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18
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5/8
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11
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18
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3/4
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10
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16
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7/8
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9
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14
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1
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8
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12
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1
1/8
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7
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12
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1
1/4
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7
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12
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1
3/8
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6
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12
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1
1/2
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6
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12
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1
3/4
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5
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2
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4.5
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Early Harley and Indian motorcycles used
24tpi threads on most diameters 5/16 and 3/8 UNF are both 24tpi
but 1/4 UNF is 28 tpi and a special 1/4 x 24 thread must be
used. 7/32 x 24 UNC is an obsolete thread and will be hard to
source.
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British spanners are complicated in their markings.
Early Whitworth nuts and bolts were larger than British Standard
nuts [ BSF-BSCY] for example, a 5/16 Whitworth nut was the same
size as a 3/8 British Standard nut. This meant that early
spanners were marked one size too big for modern nuts, later
they were marked in both Whitworth and British Standard i.e.
5/16
Whitworth 3/8 British Standard.
Later on, Whitworth was changed to B.S.W. [British Standard
Whitworth] and the nut size was the same as BSF for the same
diameter bolt. and the spanner carried one marking either BSW or
BS. Make sure you are buying the right size spanner for the head
size.
American spanners are much simpler, early spanners were
marked with diameter, followed by SAE i.e. 3/8 SAE. Later
spanners are simply marked AF, which means across flats. A 7/16
AF spanner fits a nut which is 7/16 across the flats of the hex
head. A 7/16 AF fits a 1/4" inch bolt, 1/2"AF fits a
5/16 bolt and so on.
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Contact: keven
E-mail kht@hot.net.au
New South Wales Australia
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